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their fiscal cliff counteroffer to president obama. does it actually have a chance though? will the president and congressional democrats just blow it right out of the sky? we'll break it all down. >>> plus the mississippi river in crisis. water levels dropped to historic lows threatening to bring commercial traffic to a halt and spike food prices. have you even heard about this? the head of one mississippi barge operator joins us whether a disaster can still be avoided. >>> would you sublet your name for an entire year? a bidding war breaks out for the right to one man's name. he is here to explain his bold idea and how he is cashing in. even when they say it's not it is always about money melissa: first let egg look at the day's market headlines. concern over the fiscal cliff bleeding into the u.s. manufacturing sector. factory activity in november declined for the first time in three months. the news weighted down stocks helping shed 59 points off the dow. the raw materials sector hit hard by the contraction in manufacturing. shares of dupont were the biggest loser closing down 2%. dell ge
montgomery scott. thank you, mark. dennis: on deck we have president obama taking questions on the cliff on twitter this hour. latest on negotiations or lack thereof coming up. tracy: did you tweet your question yet? dennis: not yet. tracy: higher taxes on the wealthy prompted an exodus from france and britain. will americans follow them to other countries? looks how oil is trading as we head out to break. pretty much flat. $89.08 a barrel. we'll be right back. tracy: it is time to make money with charles payne. this hour we're taking a look at a farm cute -- pharmaceutical company in the green. points.own about three >> market is not looking good. this is called medicis company. it is not relativelily well-known. beat the street, 27%, 47%. they had a miss. stock pulled back. they have three strong products. what i'm intrigued by is the proddct pipeline. they have anti-platelet agents that was reviewed by the university of munich. tremendous review. patients on the verge of having cardiac surgery got to get all that plavix out or counteract that. if this gets approved, three products in
to the federal revenue. here is what happens if obama drives us ofthe cliff. that 82 billion in higher taxes with the top 2 percent, add to that, we don't want to leave anybody of ofthis deal, $223 billion. now, do you suppose there is a reason that president obama likes to all the talk about those tax hikes, the tp 2%? i wonder why. could it be that he wants to drawttention away from the 400 -- let's do that right here, 400 -- $4 billion projected by the congressional budget office, $494 billion of obamacare taxes that will hit t the 2%, not the 98%, but the middle-class, and they start hitting on january 1st, and it does not matter whether we go over the cliff for not. if you have not heard about those tax hikes, perhaps it is because the mainstream liberal media for some strange reason does not want to talk about the inconvenience impact of obama taxes on our middle-class. >> the bill is passed. lou: the house passes the stem emigration bill. some democrats call it racist and pandering. how that? and republicans also introduced the achieve act. other republicans taking the lead on emigra
said positive remarks about a fiscal cliff deal by president obama are aiding share prices. i guess port-related issues are leading the gains as the weakening trend of the yen is continuing. so let's take a look at the currency markets. the dollar is higher against the yen. that's on better than expected nonmanufacturing data out of the u.s. 82.40-43. euro/yen, that's in the mid 107 yen levels this thursday morning. taking a look at other markets in the asia-pacific, south korea's companiespy is 1949. let's take a look at australia. the benchmark index is lower by about.25%, 4508. let's see where china takes us when they open the next hour. >>> european commission regulators have imposed a fine worth almost $2 billion for running two price-fixing cars sells. they say it's the highest-ever anti-trust penalty in their history. the commission leaders said they fined six companies a total of $1.47 billion euros for anti-competitive behavior. the firms are panasonic and toshiba, samsung sdi and lg electronics, phillips and technicolor. they say the officials of those companies met a numb
of cars made before 2012 will not. up next, president obama eeting with everyone about the fiscal cliff, everyone except for the leaders in washington d.c. for the republican party. we will share our list of people that the president might also want to think about sitting down with. it might have just about as much affectas president obama plane taxman. how much higher? we will show you what some suspect about the math in d.c. in the "chalk talk" next. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. ♪ lou: we have a national debt net of $16 trillion. we want to do a little something in that "chalk talk" tonight to bring some simple math home, primarily for the benefit of those we elected to represent us in washington d.c. and if cbo, a congressional budget office projections are right, that 16 will be a trillion dollars higher next year. if the fiscal cliff is avoided, the fed
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of cars made before 2012 will not. up next, president obama meeting with everyone about e fiscal cliff, everyone except for the leaders in washington d.c. for the republican party. we will share our list of eople that the president might also want to think about sitting down with. it might have just about as much affect as president obama plane taxman. how much higher? we will show you what some suspect about the math in d.c. in the "chalk talk" next. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't wt to pay more an you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. citi price rewind. nfc, afc, offensive lineman, defensive tackles, quarterbacks and cornerbacks are all living united. to ensure the acadic success of millio
will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
. >>> these are your headlines. the war of words over the fiscal cliff intensifies as obama prepares to take his case to the american people. the eurozone was living in a, quote, fairy world. draghi tells governments they cannot rely only on ecb help and chastises them for past mistakes. and schaeuble warns a default could spell the end of the euro. >>> president obama travels to a suburb of philadelphia today to tour a local toy company. he'll speak at noon eastern time and will continue to press republicans to let tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year. reports suggest the president's opening bid and budget talks calls for a $1.6 trillion tax hike, $50 billion in new in-practice straukt spending, and unfettered power to raise the u.s. debt ceiling. that was laid out to lawmakers yesterday by tim geithner and led to sharp comments there both sides of the aisle. >> now is the time for the republicans to move past this happy talk about revenues, ill defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. >> what we don
to avoid the year end fiscal cliff. >>> and president obama is meeting with a group u.s. governors today around 10:00 a.m. eastern. it includes jack markell, mary fallon, scott walker. the governors will discuss how the fiscal cliff will impact their states and possible solutions. it's also expected to meet with house republicans, as well, this week. >>> and oracle is amongst the latest of speeding up their dividend pay outs to avoid possible tax hikes because of the fiscal cliff. they will pay dividends a total of 18 cents a share for the next three quarters. larry ellison didn't take part in the decision, but he will benefit. he own as 23% stake in the company, so he'll receive around $198 million. yes, you heard it right. oracle stock down 0.8% despite that in frankfurt. still to come, interest rates in australia are moving down. down under. find out what central bank is worried about when we come back. >>> australia central bank held its rate setting meeting. matthew taylor has the details. >> the market had been pricing in a 25 basis point rate cut and the reserve bank delivered wit
people who run small businesses, people who are most targeted by the tax increases. take the fiscal cliff stuff out, obama taxes target small businesses, let's say have you a small, not unreasonable you make around $500,000, you. we like 15 people. you raise their taxes, they will lop off 2 or 3 of those people. neil: who are these small business guys that got in. >> i'm sure some of them have -- you know, listen, not all small businesses are monolithic. neil: who are big business guys. >> lloyd, just so you know, i know him personal, saying how great the president's plan is, ear something like warren buffet, they made so much money already. what do they care if you take of their taxes a little bit. james gorman that runs morgan stanley, i really like, said put pressure on congress to get a deal done, i am sure that that james would not care if they raised upper rate on people, but morgan stanley still pushing for certain deducts that help business, i would be careful with listening to the quote, unquote corporate. >> we did look at this, we cannot prove a exact number but overwhelming n
the fiscal cliff because it will have bad responses to republicans. the obama people will be able to say you gave away the ability to keep taxes down on 98% of americans. and for the president, the idea that he would allow the taxes to go up, again, on appetizing for him given that he said he would protect the american middle class. lori: he said the same thing over and over again. how do you see this sorting itself out? >> from purely a political viewpoint, i did not see why anyone would not make a deal. the fear i have is they just kick the can down the road thing and they create a three-month bridge. not the heart and soul of it which will be, as you said, some kind of tax hikes. then, you move on, in terms of the entitlement cuts. i do not think we will get the social security. when it comes to spending and social security on the like -- that is what will happen. i do not see why people don't just make the deal. lori: how much further down the road can it go? juan williams, so nice to see you. have a nice weekend. >> thank you, lori. melissa: charlie gasparino has the latest details. he
-offer in fiscal cliff negotiations with president obama takes away a white house argument that the republicans have no plan and puts medicare on the table for discussion. the republican counter-offer would raise $800 billion through tax reform and cut $600 billion from federal health programs, including raising medicare eligibility, another $600 billion cut from mandatory and discretionary spending, and factor inflation less in calculating social security benefits. "what we're putting forth is a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house." in a three-page letter to the president calling democratic gains in the senate and mr. obama's victory a "status quo election," the republican proposal would raise half the amount as the president's plan and save $350 billion from medicare and medicaid. however, at the chicago fed, a gathering of 39 individuals from banking and manufacturing industries - including automakers and other sectors - say the economy is strong enough - barely - to withstand either party's direction. "the vast majority think the fiscal cliff's impact will n
saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. cnbc has learned the completion of the so-called volcker rule is being delayed until the end of the first quarter of next year instead of the end of this year. the rule which is named for paul volcker bans banks from proprietary trading. but it's proven difficult for u.s. regulators to define and high volume of feedback has led to push back, repeated push back, of that deadline. mervyn king will release financial stability report today. there's been speculation in the report that king will raise capital requirements for banks and introduce new banking regulations. for our uk viewers, we'll bring you live coverage of the bank of england's report in just over an hour. for thousannow, chris wheeler j. what is your sense of what he could say? >> if we look at the uk banks, perhaps lloyd and those that have the biggest issues despite all the work, i think they're on a glide path to get to where they
's home page, the actual heading reads, quote response to president obama's unserious fiscal cliff proposal. is unserious a word? in john boehner's universe, i guess. >> as much of a word as flabbergasted is. >> bill: robert calls him the weeper of the house. kitty jon says says i started my campaign against boehner last week saying what you are discussing this morning. i don't plan to let up on it although i believe it falls on deaf ears. peter, how do people john campaign? >> peter: on twitter@speaker boehner., 202-225-0600, how to get in touch with speaker boehner >> bill: the message is simply at that time cut for 98% of the americans, lead or get out of the way. >> "the bill press show." >> yesterday we saw both sides accusing each other of not getting anything done. speaker john boehner said on fox news sunday, right now we are nor, period. here is let's take a look at treasury secretary timothy geithner on abc's "this week". >> this is no responsible wake we can govern this country with those low rates. they will have
't the fiscal cliff. this is what obama has already baked into the cake. your flexible savings account will be trashed by taxes. millions of special needs families will find their taxes go up. if you're really sick, you can't deduct as much of your health care costs as you used to. these are all the ways that obama's raising taxes, $1 trillion, $1.1 trillion, over the next decade. five major taxes. his new taxes are not off the table. they hit directly into the middle class. medical devices. when you go to the hospital, medical devices like riding in a wheelchair will get more expensive because of this tax. i mean, these taxes are damaging. he wants to make them permanent. >> i think grover knows that the major source of additional taxes is part of the affordable care act is asking higher income individuals over $250,000 to pay higher capital gains and more on their medicare contribution. that was the bulk of the taxes. so to suggest that this is a big tax increase on middle income americans is just not right. the president's proposing that we extend tax relief for the middle income am
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avoiding the fiscal cliff. new polling suggests support for president obama's position in the standoff with congressional republicans. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check her life line. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills and, i mean, you know, that's for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she is not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people out of work more than 26 weeks.
13,000. and investors appeared optimistic after avoiding the fiscal cliff after president obama suggested that the deal could be reached in about a week. >>> the government issues a new warning today about those reverse mortgages. they are mortgages that give senior citizen homeowners an immediate cash payment in exchange for a future equity. today the obama administration will recommend that senoras be very careful before signing one. >>> star bucks is planning to open 1500 more cafes across the country over the next five years. averaging two new stores every day. that's america's money, i'm paula faris. >>> well, today many have been waiting for. the state of maryland begins issuing same sex marriage licenses today. we're live with more on this historic day. >>> on a mission for survivors, a man walks cross-country for those affected by the stroke. we're going to tell you where you can meet him today. >>> and one baltimore neighborhood could be getting a major makeover. the mayor will be on hand for a big announcement today. we're going to tell you what it is and if it is wher
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
another meeting. today president obama meeting with governors on the fiscal cliff talks so what is really going on behind the scenes? well, i will tell you what, we'll ask governor gary herbert of utah. he actually met with the president so we'll get a first-hand account. tracy: yeah, that will be interesting. is red tape standing in the way of a housing recovery? will foreclosures bog down in court proceedings? our very own judge napolitano is here to give us the scoop on that. ashley: plus, say it ain't so. the bubbly is losing its physician. the champagne industry suffering from a hangover from europe's economic woes. there hasn't been a lot of celebrating across the pond lately. we'll have more. tracy: i wonder if europe is drinking wine instead? ashley: they're drinking something. they will never give that up. tracy: they do it in church, heck. all right, top of the hour, time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. we head down to nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. girl, we are, as ashley said, drifting and it is all because of washington, isn't it? >> ther
was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my reaction was this. >> flabbergasted. [ laughing ] >> cenk: what's your reaction. >> slightly flabbergasted because this is not how the president has worked before. he ran with a grassroots in 2008. we tried to recreate that, talked about the ground game in the campaign in 2012. he's taking a grassroots campaign to politics, which is what progressives have been begging him to do now for a while. it seems to be working. all the hash tags and all the my 2 k has tags has gotten up to 13,000 tweets per hour. not every one of them is, hey great idea, mr. president. a lot of them are coming from people who are conservatives saying whatever it is that they're saying. the point is he's in touch with the people. he's not living in a cocoon like he
will not. up next, president obama meeting with everyone about the fiscal cliff, everyone except for the leaders in washington d.c. for the republican party. we will share ourist of people that the president might also want to think about sitting down with. it might have just about as much affect as president obama plane taxman. how much higher? we will show you what some suspect about the math in d.c. in the "chalk talk" next. you stl think you'reolder than me? nah. don tell me. tell tiny! [ ice crackling ] [ knuckles cracking ] and who are you supposedo be, back-up? handlet. what you looking at? ha! cat-like reflexes... whoa! [ male announcer ] the coors light silver bullet pint. it's bigger. it's resealable. it's still the coldest. don't you do it. don't you do it! [ male announcer ] frost brewed coors light. the world's most refreshing beer! mortgage. married. two great kids. he wantso protect his family with a $500,000 term life insurancpolicy. what do you think it'll cost him? a hundred dollars a month? sixty? forty? actually none of the above. john can get a $500,000 polic
: president obama discussing the fiscal cliff, and, plus, speaking live to the iowa governor, his state facing a double whammy if we go over the cliff. what compromises he'd love to see come out of washington, and how he believes they could reach them. this is a guy who deals with the democratic senate, so, really, he knows how to cross the aisle to make it happen. david: somebody else you know about, with all the talk about tax increases, the idea of a simple flat tax dead? we'll see. forbes doesn't think so. there's a news conference along with washington lawmakers to push for the flat tax. he joins us later this hour. liz: first, what drove the marketings for today's data download. stocks ending lower, struggling for direction most of the day, unable to hold gains trading lower. i think it was 79 times. health care and industrials were today's top performing sectors and telecomo lagged. the euro extending the gains versus the dollar, rallying to a near seven week high against the green back after greece announced its debt buy back terms. euro rose to a $1131. that's high historically. actio
is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: enter a new player in the talks, stephanie cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to
ahead, of course, live coverage of president obama's remarks on the fiscal cliff and the negotiations before the business roundtable. we'll bring that to you live in just a few minutes. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> with the internet streaming space, hey, there melissa, we're looking at netflix bouncing around based on comments from the chief content cipher but the stock took a bit of a hit when he said that netflix has to plans to cover the costs of the disney deal. nevertheless causing the stock to come off the best levels of the day. back to you, carl. >>> the president is about to speak in front of the business roundtable. good morning, john. >> good morning, carl. he's talking to the business roundtable. you can expect him to highli
that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for t
because obama clearly sees that he has a mandate out of the election on fiscal cliff issues. even though it wasn't a huge issue in the debate the white house is behaving like it has that mandate. what you have been seeing is republicans showing signs of flexibility and i am not just talking john boehner saying revenue is on the table. we have republican senators saying they will stand up to the grover norquist tax pledge. they're willing to break it which is pretty big news. we also have the influential member of congress, republican tom cole saying we have got to agree to extend the tax cut just for those people making $250,000 and below and letting the more wealthy be taxed. definitely flexibility but what you see from democrats is an unwillingness to do serious entitlement reform that would lead to reductions in spending. they want to kick the can down the road and do more of the next year with the vague promises. dennis: the think republicans will be willing to agree upfront to more tax revenue or higher tax rates as we go without a firm cap on entitlement reform? >> that is the big
the proverbial fiscal cliff. and that's why president obama has an advantage, because he's willing -- he says, this is what he and his advisers say, he's willing to send the nation off of the fiscal cliff, letting all income tax rates to jump, spending cuts to take hold, investment income rates to jump. he's willing to do that. he thinks republicans would get the political blame. republicans, on the other hand, note that listen, the president's going to have to have another term where he's dealing with what's likely to be a deep recession as a result of these huge income tax jumps. so it's a position that neither man really wants to be in, but talks have completely dried up. yesterday speaker john boehner and president obama did not speak and their staffs did not speak. so really this thing is at a standstill like we've never seen before. >> yeah. so the fact that we're not even talking now. the aides aren't even talking the each other. where does that leave us? how comfortable is everybody with this? when are they going to restart speaking? >> house republicans released their own proposal a
viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: with 25 days left until the year-end fiscal cliff, and just 19 days until christmas, president obama warned lawmakers today not to add to the holiday pressures americans already feel, by letting the political stalemate drag on. but he also again insisted there would be no deal unless tax rates went up on the wealthy. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed we're going to be. >> woodruff: president obama made the short trip to northern virginia today to underline his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boe
obama made the short trip to northern virginia today to underline his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other
cliff, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. i think that's smart. >> that's a good idea, too. >> but the stalemate in the negotiations entered new territory yesterday with, once again, treasury secretary tim geithner. >> he's got a light touch. >> he needs to step away, step away from the table. suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> republicans do not agree to that. is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- rr s -- rrm, it'emy 2%, it can't be solved. i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> okay, julia. see, this is the problem with men. on sunday morning geithner went on "meet the press" like they're going to cave. >> that's not good tactics for negotiations. >> get him out and get some women -- the congresswoma
report." president obama goes before business leaders and says "we could get this done in a week" when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president
td ameritrade. >> jennifer: as we crawl toward the fiscal cliff remember that president obama has the majority of the american electorate on his side. he has the majority of the u.s. senate on his side too. but the one place he does not have the majority is the house of representatives, of course, where republicans out number democrats. that's the only place republicans have any leverage. so what will the democrats there do to help the president out? minority leader nancy pelosi offered insight to have at meeting with second of treasury quite miles an hour. ry geithner. >> there are tough choices it isn't easy but it's necessary, i have confidence that my republican colleagues will see the light. and at least pass a new tax cut so we have that legal of confidence and we can go from there. >> jennifer: sound like she is saying the republicans might not be tough enough to do the right thing. sound like she's got the president's back. now, to take us inside the house democrat i can caucus we are turn to go a great, re
million. more "squawk on the street" straight ahead. >>> president obama's fiscal cliff puts the focus on another company. we want to listen into what the ceo had to say about the cliff. >> i think we have to rise above all of the partisan rhetoric that we've been talking about. what we're talking about here is a fiscal cliff as a math problem. we have solved bigger problems as a nation in the past. i'm 100% confident we'll have a deal by the end of the year and gdp growth will be above 4% next year. >> congressman jim gerlach represents the district next door to where the president will be today. yesterday we had speaker boehner come on national television and say the president needs to stop campaigning. here he is yet again today going basically to your part of the country. how does that feel? >> he's going to be up in southeastern pennsylvania near where my legislative district is. i think the president ought to get off the campaign bus and get into the conference room with the speaker and the other congressional leaders and work out a deal. we only have about 30 days to go before t
to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spending problem in washington. that's not really talked about. there's a lot of focus on the other side, but there is a real need to control the spending because we know we spend more than what we bring in every year, can want continue down this path, and you'll go off the cliff. we have to resolve that by going off the drivers of the debt, the entitlement programs, and we have to talk about that. tracy: right. we're not. i'm not sure why. i think an easy fix is raise retirement age. is that on the table for the republicans? >> w
've got to learn how to work a little bit here. >> what does obama want that's not in the fiscal cliff -- he wants what's in the fiscal cliff. it's defense cuts and tax hikes. we're compromising with someone who doesn't want to compromise. he likes that stuff. i know he doesn't want to raise taxes on the middle class. but we have to give up everything in this deal. we should articulate our principles or give him what he wants. we're going to vote present and say -- >> boehner's doing the best he can. he's playing a short deck right now. >> you really think he's the best spokesman for conservatism. >> no, no. >> we should put a paul ryan -- we need younger leadership. >> paul ryan came out publicly in support of boehner. that's point number one. secondly, boehner jumped ryan over more senior people to put him as head of the budget committee. that's my second point. and boehner himself is being advised by ryan every step of the way. >> what do you say about this purge then? he's purging people that wants to balance the budget. >> you lost, ron. don't blame boehner. blame the republican p
. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it's... it's... was not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere. >> reporter: across the c
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